If a week or two before child's 2nd birthday a Judge in a deprived case orders DNA testing on man (A)who signed AOP and

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Customer: If a week or two before child's 2nd birthday a Judge in a deprived case orders DNA testing on man (A)who signed AOP and been on Birth Certificate since child was born and the Judge ordered DNA testing on man (B) whose recent request for DNA test had been denied by DHS, and a month and half after the child turns 2 the results are man (B) is the biological father. who is then ordered to be on the birth certificate but the child still bares M (A)'s last name, and no best interest hearing was ever held, who legally is responsible to pay child support? Man (A) also already has a child that is a year older than the one in question and has full custody of that child when DHS had taken the child that was turning 2 into emergency custody in a deprived case.
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A is paying child support but B is the biological father?

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I was asking who was responsible for child support because the DNA results and order to change birth certificate was done after child turned 2. A best interest hearing was never held to determine who was in the best interest. Is it legal for man A to take the mother to court to get custody of one child that's biologically his but not the other
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Michael Bradley, Expert

This is where it can get tricky and not make sense.

If A has been in the child's life including overnights, A has standing to file a petition for custody under the law of standing as a parent or as it is called, in loco parentis.

If A is paying child support, he can file to vacate it since he is not the biological parent.

Since B is the biological father, mother can file for child support since he is the father of the child.

Since B is the biological father, he can file for custody as well.

The court would need to determone what is in the best interest of the child as that is the custody law.

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A does not have to pay support but can get custody.

B has to pay support and potentially not be able to see the child.

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To my understanding from what I read years back is if a man is a child's father since birth and 2 yrs have passed it doesn't matter if DNA proves they are not. And if they are not there would be a best interest hearing. I find it odd the court would let this man petition for his biological daughter and get custody and ignore that he is also the legal father of the other one and not seek custody or try to deny being the father.
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Michael Bradley, Expert

That is no longer the state of the law. That was the law however, the courts have decided that people that are married are not presumed to be faithful anymore and they will not hold out the person to be the father if a test comes back saying that someone is. Now, it does not mean that the original Parent can't stay in the picture they certainly can but that is no longer the law

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How does it work in a adjudication hearing when DHS has taken the child into emergency custody for the mother exposing child to domestic violence between her and her new husband that happened to be a sex offender at the time? DHS wouldn't do anything when I reported the mother because I wasn't the father. I filed a paternity case but DHS filed a motion denying DNA because she had had one of her other child's father sign the AOP and put him on birth certificate. When DHS took kids she told them I might be the father so they ordered DNA and when it came back I was the father they gave me a treatment plan with more to do than her's while she secretly continued to live with her husband who wasn't given a treatment plan. How can I fail to protect my child when legally I wasn't even the father someone else was?
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When the agency takes custody of the child, there is an emergency hearing that is held within 48 Hours. However, that hearing is only to determine whether the agency has the right to hold the child at least temporarily. That is almost always branded as there is nothing that is really litigated there. However, a full hearing is held within 14 days and that is when you can argue with the agency for the child to be returned. The agency has taken the child because they believe that the child is in a dangerous situation and for their safety they are to be remove. That is what you are fighting.

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After they took kids into emergency custody they held a hearing. That's when they ordered DNA. About 6 weeks later is when the results came back I was the father. At my adjudication I was waiting on the wrong floor and walked in right as they finished. But at the time they took kids I was not the legal father. And her other child's father has been on the birth certificate since birth and signed the AOP. He already had custody of his biological daughter. I don't understand why they didn't automatically hand my daughter over to him instead of going to foster care with her other sister just because the mom all of a sudden wants to say she might be mine when she was saying it was his for the last 2 years.
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Michael Bradley, Expert

The AOP doesnot matter if you are biological father.

I would send the DNA test to division of vital records in the state that they were born and they will add you and dop him.

Now that you arw the father I would call the agency and ask to talk to the case owrker.

You need to establish yourself as the father and they can look into placing the child with you.

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That's all been done. I still doesn't answer the question how were they able to adjudicate me as the father and claim I failed to protect my child when at the time the incident happened I was not involved and legally was not my child because of the other guy on the birth certificate and signed the AOL? Why wasn't he the one adjudicated as failed to protect? Cause under the eyes of the law he was the legal father.
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How do you protect a child that isn't legally yours?
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The case has long since been closed. I missed the final permanency hearing when DHS closed out their case on the mom cause the tribal worker & case worker sided with the mother and were mad at me for secretly recording their conversations. Creek nation disciplined the tribe worker I didn't get a chance to do anything to the case worker. The mother is still married to the sex offender, she failed one trial reunification hiding from DHS, and had got into 2 more domestic in front of the kids charges out on other boyfriends.
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The agency can not go after you since you were not involved in the child's life.

As I said I would contact vital records and send a copy of the DNA test.

If they will not take it then you would need to file a motion for genetic testing and get a court order stating that you are the father.

With the DNA test I do not believe that you need the motion.

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There must be misunderstanding in what I have told u. There's no problem of me being ordered to be the biological father and added to the birth certificate that was done when the DNA results came back. I'm saying they adjudicated me the father who failed to protect child from the mother exposing child to domestic violence and a sex offender. How does one protect a child that was not legal mine til 2 months after taken into emergency custody? And Connor be the presumed father because another man was on the birth certificate and signed the AOP at time or birth.
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Michael Bradley, Expert

Were you given an indicated report?

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I now undertsand and agree that if that was the case I would appeal that determination.

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I was right DHS got over on me about 20 different ways. I'm not sure what an indicated report is. But it's really too late to do anything about it as this stuff took place back in 2016. I just wanted the piece of mind knowing it's terrible thing when an organization helps alienate a child from their father and ignore their own policies to do it.
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